We return to some of the pieces we did not get to in the last two Sundays, namely our cataphatic and apophatic list about God. We, too, are in the process of unknowing what we know and wanting to be transparent and open about that. The two lines seem to repeat themselves, audibly and inaudibly:

“There is nothing to hang on to. We are held by everything.”

What does it look like to let go and allow ourselves to be held at the same time? And how, as you will hear us talk about, do we put it into relatable language? Two things we learned in this podcast:

1) James Hollis is a prolific writer. His most recent book is A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity (2023).

2) The parable of the boat and the stormy sea is paired with the story of Jacob wrestling the angel in the liturgical calendar. They have similar meanings. When we wrestle — with the dark night, with the angel, with the stormy sea — and then let go, we discover peace. We are transformed.